J. Hofer

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  How to Pick Your Religion

  by Gojira_101 in

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  https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1441&bih=654&q=how+to+pick+your+religion+chart&oq=how+to+pick+your+religion+chart&gs_l=img.3..0i24.3120.8903.0.9221.31.16.0.15.15.1.205.2058.5j10j1.16.0...0.0...1ac.1.4.img.syy2hmj5xae#imgrc=vvicewc0cwngfm%3a%3bdabhdbtixg5fam%3bhttp%253a%252f%252fcontemplatingtruth.files.wordpress.com%252f2011%252f05%252fchoosing-your-religion-flowchart.jpg%3bhttp%253a%252f%252fcontemplatingtruth.wordpress.com%252fbreaktime%252freligions%252f%3b2112%3b1248.

  bare with me as i figure out how to post pictures.. i thought this chart was hilarious on how to pick your religion..

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  i think i've seen this here before, but here you go anyway

  ah well, now you edited it yourself... nevermind
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  greatest show on earth

  by unstopableravens in

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  i wanted to start this thread two weeks ago,however i have had alot going on with wifey and the elders,that is another thread.

  to be honest my mind has been on my family.

  i will be able to discuss the book tommorow morning.

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  i think i get what you want to say, unstoppable, you think that that whole "light is getting brigher" also applies to science... the funny thing is, that rutherford back then applied that whole bright light stuff to science and technological achievements, like the railroad, automobiles and dynamite :D

  the big difference between science and "the truth" is, that science does accept well founded contrary evidence and ajusts to it. it's open to public criticism. a theory can't be established before going through peer review and hard evidence. it's not like there's a pope or a governing body deciding which current light we're believing in today and which to change tomorrow.
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  The time is near for my families crucification

  by Gojira_101 in

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  good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.

  we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.

  my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.

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  slightly off topic, but shouldn't it be crucifixion?

  and yeah, it's the time when i already drank a few beers and should stay away from anything resembling a computer of some sorts.
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  Who plays video games?!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  any gamers out there?

  i love a good game.

  to me a great game is like a great book!

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  the walking dead was a really good game, almost old skool point and click style, although i think the decision making doesn't change much of the outcome (the one's you choose to help die either way).

  as for GoW.. did you play heavenly sword too? have to dig it out again, i really liked that setting...
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  Parents - How can I tell them what I have learnt and hope they leave too.

  by free and happy in

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  my husband and i and our children having been left the jws for 5 years now, for me it was how we were treated, the lies elders told about us and the blood issue that really opened my eyes and while all this was happening, my parents watched, supported and even sympathised with us,they said they understood our decision and even though it sadden them we were leaving, they understood.

  they have never shunned us and we have a really good relationship with them.. what i don't understand is how they can still stay and play happy families with the people who caused us so much pain and anxiety, without the transfusion my eldest had, she would be dead, it truely was a life saver, why did they not question the religion that was quite happy to let her die for it.. i think the problem for me is that when i was at home, we never really talked, any problems were just glossed over , in fact i don't think i have ever had an indepth jw talk with my parents about how i felt about being a witness which makes it so hard to tell them what i've learnt now, i haven't a clue where to start.. for my husband it seemed quite easy for him to have discussions with his mum and step dad as he never had the same closeness that i had with my parents when growing up even though we were raised in witness families, but then it dawned on me that we never really spoke indepth about anything much so how do i start now?.

  so i'm asking for any advice anyone can give, if you have any suggestions i would love to hear from you..

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  you accomplished something already: you're free. you can't force someone else in the matrix to see the same thing. they have to choose themselves. when they are ready, offer them the red pill.
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  greatest show on earth

  by unstopableravens in

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  i wanted to start this thread two weeks ago,however i have had alot going on with wifey and the elders,that is another thread.

  to be honest my mind has been on my family.

  i will be able to discuss the book tommorow morning.

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  as said, i haven't read the book (mea maxima culpa), but what i think he is trying to establish is that in the scientifical sense, a "theory" is not just some unfounded idea, but pretty much the same thing as a fact, just the theoretical part of it. in common language, we often use "theory" in the same way sience uses the term "hypothesis". it's probable one of the most used "arguments" you hear about evolution, "it's JUST a theory". in science you won't get anything better than a theory EVER. in this context, theory = fact.
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  "Foreigners" and today's Watchtower

  by 88JM in

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  i know this is true every week, and i say it all the time, and i know blondie will be doing her review later, but.... today's watchtower was bat-shit crazy!.

  i knew it was going to be a bizzare one just reading it, but the comments at the meeting took it even further.

  i can't post all the crazy ones, but in summary what they were saying was:.

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  nation of jehovah. they may not discriminate by colour (although i wouldn't be too sure about that) but if you reject only one of their beliefs, you're toast.
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  What if you simply IGNORED being disfellowshipped and continued as before?

  by Terry in

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  i know this is an odd idea.

  maybe it is even silly.. but, i do daydream..... .

  what if you were informed that you are disfellowshipped and you flashed a huge smile and said, "nah.".

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  this would make a good flash mob for the memorial. some 100 DFed people engaging averagae JWs in the usual after meeting chit chat.
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  greatest show on earth

  by unstopableravens in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to start this thread two weeks ago,however i have had alot going on with wifey and the elders,that is another thread.

  to be honest my mind has been on my family.

  i will be able to discuss the book tommorow morning.

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  to be honest, i haven't read any of dawkins books (even though i'm an atheist and i'm a big fan of his youtube vids and i'd recommend his books to anyone anyway). he usually talks about overwhelming evidence. one eye witness account doesn't count. neither do 10. but for the holocaust, there's hundereds of thousands who witnessed it and told the same story, this is overwhelming evidence.

  as for the gospel "eye witness accounts" - we can't even be sure who wrote those gospels.
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  greatest show on earth

  by unstopableravens in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to start this thread two weeks ago,however i have had alot going on with wifey and the elders,that is another thread.

  to be honest my mind has been on my family.

  i will be able to discuss the book tommorow morning.

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  eye witness accounts are not reliable.